In other words I could use this p-mount stylus on my AT150MLX when that one needs replacing? Currency: Detailed but mellow. Assuming your Onkyo has the original cartridge then the stylus in the link Michael posted above will fit. Some products excluded. As promised. I haven't heard that Pickering but I'm familiar with the standard mount Pickerings with the stereohedron stylus (XSV 4000, etc) and they are excellent. P-Mount Cartridge Choice - Grado, Ortofon, AT, Pickering ? So, if you had to buy one in production or easily available new / NOS P-Mount cartridge, what would it be? David: There'd be quite a few more options, but - as fantasia already mentioned - some of these would be a little more "creative" (by combining new or used cartridge bodies with better needles). I had a Grado Green on my Denon DP-7f many years ago that did not sound as good as the Audio Technica AT311EP it had been purchased to replace. I am looking for a new P-Mount, and found these fantastic shoot out videos on the Grado cartridges (although they are not the p-mount versions): I had precisely the same problem using a new AT cart with a Technics SL-QD33. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: Shipping Region: Inspect carefully before use and message the seller if you have concerns relating to the product. Hi, Yes, test it has the stereohedron stylus, I just can't find any reviews for it, hence my questions, Hi, The only two considerations, would be, that, I don't like too bright a sound, nor, a cartridge that enhances surface noise. Disclaimer: Etsy assumes no responsibility for the accuracy, labeling, or content of sellers' listings and products. Thanks for all the extra information and warning about stylus types. Simple Returns, Secure Transactions, Human Support. I was introduced to Pickering/Stanton cartridges by Mr. Needlestein and will be forever grateful. And it does sound wonderful. But please contact me if you have any problems with your order. Stylus checks out under microscope. Or, am I, better off, just to, replace both, cartridge and stylus ? MM Cartridges US$90-120: Grado Green REVIEW, Grado Red - Group C cartridges' ($170- $200) reviews and shoot-out, Grado Gold - Group D cartridges' ($250- $300) REVIEWS and Shoot-Out Series, ADC PSX-30 cartridge with half-inch mount adaptor, Forum Policies, Rules, and Terms of Service. Stay in the loop with LP Tunes sales, promotions & deals! Options are more limited with P-mount carts unfortunately. I love the two coil bodies (500, Pickering V15 and P Mount counterparts). If youd like to file an allegation of infringement, youll need to follow the process described in our Copyright and Intellectual Property Policy. My one issue with it is by lini 11 May 2009 07:12, Post August 9, 2016 in Vinyl and Turntables. You probably can plug that into a 1/2" AT body since a favorite upgrade for those with that P Mount body is to use a modern ATN440-MLb or even an ATN150MLX and now on up to the ATN150SA stylus. The Pickerings I've listened to, including the P -mount I mentioned above are very smooth and I've never noticed surface noise in particular. Happy to find a replacement for my old M-44-E, as Shure discontinued their cartridge production in 2018. At Reverb, your safety and security is our priority. Similar to a Shibata, the Stereohedron was trademarked by Stanton and Pickering. Thankfully the unit allows tracking force adjustment. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. It will be adequate but a fair way short of some of the alternatives mentioned. We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. And most importantly, it sounds incredible. I must agree with lini on the 'shibata' stylus being offered on ebay; I have already sent the first one they shipped back (it was labeled diamond elliptical on the box), and now the replacement has arrived not even packed in an original case. by fantasia 09 May 2009 03:25, Post So, you cannot change the cartridge to another type and you must use only this needle type DN-56ST on the factory supplied ONKYO OC-56V cartridge. Awesome Pioneer SX-780 Silver Face Stereo Receiver Serviced LED Upgrade Vintage Hi-Fi Antique Audiophile Amplifier Radio Amazing Sound Looks, Technics SL-D303 Turntable (1981) Audio-Technica Cartridge Nice Original Stylus Audiophile Vintage HiFi Record Player Phonograph Phono, Copyright and Intellectual Property Policy, Review how we define handmade, vintage and supplies, See a list of prohibited items and materials, remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. See Etsy's Terms of Use for more information. Germany, Thanks. Rare find this item is hard to come by. Hi, Hensa, I just found this information out myself, that's why I never mentioned it before. Thanks againdidn't realize how much I missed listening to my old records. You might also like to try the Audio Technica AT92ECD - this pops up cheap on ebay occasionally - eg:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Audio-Technica-P-Mount-Cartridge-Shipping-is-Free-/112066289589?hash=item1a17abdfb5:g:CcgAAOSwRgJXkogW, Hi, Thanks for that , but, as I have pointed out in my last post, I won't be able to change this cartridge at all, it's the use of an non tp4 cartridge system, plus a fixed tracking force of 2grams, this is how Onkyo designed and built this turntable, why ? Awesome turntable! None of your replies are wasted because I understand more now however the cartridge purchase is on hold as I've realised it will probably cost less and be easier to buy a better example of an sl-7 with a decent cartridge on it rather than getting a new one for mine. This is a perfect fit for my AT96E cartridge.. Quick service, accurate stylus size, helpful with another question concerning cartridges. by timmerswalking 12 May 2009 11:42, Post As far as the Technics' are concerned, you'd be looking at NOS or second hand - I mentioned these because of the boron cantilevers. I emailed them asking for tracking force ranges and what is considered optimum and it was out of T4P range. If you have an AT-100e on up, you should be able to do it. Would make sense to be in the cart body from a purely economic point of view so perhaps all you need is the replacement stylus. A reset to 2 helped immeasurably. However, the D71EE do shape up nicely with the application of additional tracking force, and well worth it. Since they're both P-Mount all I have to do is adjust the counterweight to make the swap - the alignment is always the same. Thought P-mount and Technics Linear Tracker users might be interested in the eventual outcome. Terms of Service Privacy Policy. I love the two coil bodies (500, Pickering V15 and P Mount counterparts). http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant..y_Code=T4P, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi 3DWatching, http://www.turntableneedles.com/Needle- p_960.html. needle stylus is used with the Pickering P/AT-1 phono I put it up for sale for about a week and then decided just to keep it in case I need a p-mount of this quality in the future. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Arrived on time and well packed. Above average performance. Our publication is supported by its audience. Thanks, Hi,Upon further reading, I have also discovered that, the cartridge itself, has a built in, electronic eye, this is to be used, when programming, to play certain tracks, very cool, but, again, can the profile of the needle itself, be changed , from spherical to another profile ? I do agree that the 310MC would be overkill for the Onkyo. By continuing to use Reverb, you agree to these updates, and to our cookie policy. Pioneer PL-518X (1977-78) Audiophile Turntable Audio Technica AT71 Cartridge New Stylus Vintage HiFi Phonograph Record Player Phono Amazing! Yes! There was a problem calculating your shipping. I have a Pickering TL-2 in the Technics SL-J33 here with a generic 680 replacement stylus that I got from "Voice Of Music" (which tracks perfectly at 1.25G in that P-mount linear tracker). Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. Hi, Thanks for the great suggestions guys, okay, what about upgrading the stylus into the original cartridge ? Yes it is the aforementioned LPGear DTL-2 elliptical replacement that sounds poor at P-mount tracking force but sounds wonderful at 2.25G. Free shipping to USA mainland on orders over US$79.99. The packing was excellent and it arrived quickly. From shop Poodlini, $149.99 I was very pleased with finding this new used cartridge for a very good price, and the inclusion of a Shure stylus made it even more attractive. On another turntable the Grado may be a better match. Oops, looks like you forgot something. This means I can pull it out in a second and install another P-Mount cart that I have here for worn or otherwise abused records. A good match for my version A100E cartridge . If youve already done that, your item hasnt arrived, or its not as described, you can report that to Etsy by opening a case. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. For an upgrade, stick with Ortofons or maybe Audio Technica, much better value. It looks exactly like the original on my AT92ecd cartridge. Stylus checks out under microscope. I don't have the specifics handy, but the best I could do is track it towards the bottom point of the range. Seller is an absolute joy to deal with. Does most things well Find out more in our Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. Ad from shop Poodlini Powered by Invision Community. It's Goldilocks. FREE shipping, $129.99 To reduce the risk of fire, never leave vintage electrical or electronic products plugged in unattended. Learn more. due the old cartridge body of mine. These are third party technologies used for things like interest based Etsy ads. FREE shipping, $199.99 Saying no will not stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. needle 30, 530II)). Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. Amazing Pioneer Receiver !!! The Pickering and Ortofon (OMP-20) are both better than the 202ED. Sound Media Group Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Learn More, We understand the importance of online privacy and are committed to complying with the EU General Data Protection Regulation. Thanks again Mark. JICO quality. But damn it's a sweet sounding cart. Please check the fields highlighted in red. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. Please contact them to ask about shipping. Australian Business Number 38 650 151 296, ONKYO DN-56ST for OC-56V as found in the ONKYO PL-33 turntable, 2 grams tracking pressure - factory preset, https://www.thakker.eu/en/pickup/pickering-tmz-22e-cartridge/a-5164/, https://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/phoncart.htm, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Audio-Technica-P-Mount-Cartridge-Shipping-is-Free-/112066289589?hash=item1a17abdfb5:g:CcgAAOSwRgJXkogW. For a stylus replacement that offers improved sound by JaS 08 May 2009 10:00, Post Electrical or electronic products may pose a risk of fire or electrocution. The AT p-mounts are strictly budget fare but they are good value for what they deliver - similar to the AT-95E in standard mount ATs. The recommended tracking force was 1.5, but it was causing unbeliveable sibilance. Absolutely thrilled with with this receiver and the LED lights are perfect with this Silver Face vintage beauty. I'm surprised Grado gets such a mixed reaction. by Fenlander 08 May 2009 08:16, Post FREE shipping, $499.99 We take intellectual property concerns very seriously, but many of these problems can be resolved directly by the parties involved. It works as good as new! Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. The replacement for the Pickering D-AT-2 D AT 2 By clicking links on our site, we may earn affiliate commission, but our editorial remains entirely independent and unbiased. I could potentially swap the cartridge bodies between the two but I don't know if it would make a difference. EUR Just as with standard mount cartridges carts sound different on different TTs. I am SO happy with my purchase! ONKYO DN-56ST for OC-56V as found in the ONKYO PL-33 turntable "D6" =Diamond 0.6 mil conical tip needle. 16, 33 or 45rpm LP's NOT for 78rpm 2 grams tracking pressure - factory preset ONKYO CARTRIDGE OC-56V OC56V ONKYO MODEL PL-33 PL33 ONKYO NEEDLE DN-56ST DN56STThis needle is of a special design with an opening for an "electronic eye" to see a reflection of the record surface for the purpose of programming the player to play certain tracks. Of these, the EPC-310MC is the pick of the bunch if you have an MC phono stage. There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Definitely one of the Best on Etsy. rendition of voice and music. Recommended seller. So solid and plays crazy load. Some people call them less refined than their four coil cousins (680/681; XV-15) but I find them to be more open and immediate, too--closer to the music whereas the latter are closer to the studio. By by lini 12 May 2009 19:24, Post And there's no problem playing records sans the screw? Hi, Any opinions, or, experiences with the Pickering xl 33u ? It's beyond me, unless someone here, has any ideas, on how to, get to what I want, with it. Do not use a vintage electrical or electronic item if its safety cannot be verified. Similar to a Shibata, the Stereohedron was trademarked by Stanton and Pickering.Twin cartridge to the Stanton L747S.Ohm-meter DC resistance (output impedance)checked at L/R: 1322/1320 - better than standard specs - 99.85% channel level match.TypeMoving MagnetFreq Response10Hz - 25kHzTracking Force0.75 - 1.5 gMass6 gChannel Separation35 dBChannel Balance2 dBLoad Impedance47k Output Impedance1300 Stylus Tip8 x 71um StereohedronNotesInductance: 900mH, Recommended Capacitance Load: 275pF. What would you good people recommend as a upgrade from this ? Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Etsy keeps your payment information secure. Missing the screw on purpose. Thanks! Thank you! You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. The first thing you should do is contact the seller directly. I wouldn't hesitate to put one on a 1/2" adapted cartridge or a 500 or V15 on a 1/2" arm. Thanks. Digital Man, Copyright 2000-2017 LP Tunes - All rights reserved. An original replacement is eminently affordable, http://www.lpgear.com/product/ONKSTPL0033.html. Edit: Is the electronic eye in the cartridge body or the stylus body? quality and performance, refer to the Related Products. FREE shipping, $299.99 Currently the cartridge I use and enjoy most is a p-mount Pickering TLE with a DE stylus on a Technics SL-1700. We do this with marketing and advertising partners (who may have their own information theyve collected). Hey! Great! Inner groove distortion was especially noticeable on the Grado / Denon combo when compared to the AT. I needed a replacement stylus for two of my cartridges. Otherwise, the Pickering and the Ortofons are very good MM options. This turntable arrived promptly and plays incredibly well. Please. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by iDigital, Aug 9, 2016. I'm not at home right now or I'd see if my P Mount stylus fits into a 1/2" body. I had the exact same issue with LP Gear styli, in particular a VividLine styli for the Stanton/Pickering carts - similar to yours. Sound Media Group Pty Ltd This seller has not set a shipping cost for Germany. by lini 11 May 2009 07:25, Post Etsy shops never receive your credit card information. As an Amazon Associate, we may earn commissionsfrom qualifying purchases from Amazon.com. David: One more thing I probably should mention: If you're looking for the Ortofon 320, the descriptions/specs will probably claim it to be a nude FineLine - but that's just a bug in the specs on the Ortofon website (available in the replacement needle section - the cart itself is already out of production) that was apparently copied without verification by pretty much every vendor: In fact, as I've already mentioned above, the 320 just has a bonded FineLine diamond (which also explain the pretty significant price difference compared to the really nude FineLines (e.g. This cartridge is vary musical especially with jazz and vocals According to this it appears the electronic eye is in the cartridge, http://www.turntableneedles.com/Onkyo-DN-56ST-our-needle-TON-955-for-Onkyo-PL-33_p_1453.html. Sibilance out the wazoo. Learn More. The Pickering and Technics would be overkill for the Onkyo. Captcha failed to load. The TMZ 22E sounds better than the OMP-20 in my system and would not be out of place on the Onkyo which is a respectable linear table. Initially I was going to use it with the adapter on my stock SL1200MKII but it didn't seem to be a good match. Vintage, handmade, refurbished, or modified electrical or electronic products may not meet current safety standards and may not be in safe working order. Much smoother than Ortofon 2M Red. StereoNET (Australia) is part of an international network of publications owned wholly by Sound Media Group (Australia). Yes, that is the one. The cart doesn't come loose? Some people call them less refined than their four coil cousins (680/681; XV-15) but I find them to be more open and immediate, too--closer to the music whereas the latter are closer to the studio. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. FREE shipping. This seller usually responds within a few hours. I'm thinking, at least a Shibata, Nude, Boron Cantillever would be nice as well, I'm asking, as, I don't have any experience, or much knowledge with, the many options out there, also, if the original cartridge is good enough, maybe, a different, better, stylus, as I have just described, is all I need. I recently found what seems to be a rare bird: an AT132EP with it's original .2 x .7 nude elliptical stylus. But please contact me if you have problems with your order, United States | English (US) | $ (USD), Shure M44-7 DJ Phono Cartridge Phonograph Gramophone Hi-Fi Stereo Audiophile, Technics SL-B300 Turntable (1983) Audio-Technica AT-3482P Cartridge T4P NEW Stylus Audiophile Vintage HiFi Record Player Phonograph Phono. I think a "Shibata, nude, boron canitlever" is going to be difficult to find but may also be unnecessary. I would expect this p-mount Pickering to be very good if it has the stereohedron stylus. by lini 10 May 2009 17:28, Post Excellent items are almost entirely free from blemishes and other visual defects and have been played or used with the utmost care. Since it's in an adapter for a 1/2" mount I can accommodate the slight difference in weight by not having the screw. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Poodlini The Pickering is now cheaper than the Ortofons unless you're talking about the conical stylus variant. by Fenlander 11 May 2009 06:23, Post Hi Guys, I am looking for a P-Mount Cartridge, for my Onkyo PL-33 Linear Tracking Turntable, I'm pretty sure, it still has the original, conical stylus on it, I will have a closer look later to confirm, it came with the table. FREE shipping, $2,999.99 This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. One of the dustcover hinges was broken and when I informed Mark he promptly shipped me a replacement hinge. P-Mount Cartridge Choice - Grado, Ortofon, AT, Pickering ??? cartridge. ad by Poodlini That's always the issue with carts regardless of cartridge mount type. by Fenlander 11 Jun 2009 20:39, Design and Content Vinyl Engine 2002-2022, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, HiFi Engine | FAQ | Site Policy | Advertising | Cookie Options. Items must be returned in original, as-shipped condition with all original packaging.Learn More. I can't imagine what would keep it from working since the opposite swap is possible. spherical diamond for long playing life and good Its not vary forgiving of less then perfect records, LP Tunes Replacement for Audio-Technica ATN-12XE ATN12XE phonograph needle stylus, Stylus for Sherwood PF-117OR PF 117OR PF117OR turntable, Nagaoka N-MP3.5 NMP3.5 stylus with 3.5 mil diamond (78 RPM stylus), Jico replacement Audio-Technica ATN-71E stylus, Replacement for Pickering D-350 D350 stylus, Audio-Technica ATN120Eb stylus for Audio-Technica AT-140E AT140E cartridge, Nagaoka MP-150 MP 150 MP150 Phono Cartridge. Looks like you already have an account! To be fair, my records have always been cleaned with an rcm before playing though. Good daily driver for your older records. Interesting. Post by Fenlander 17 May 2009 18:22, Post We suggest contacting the seller directly to respectfully share your concerns. Going to ask a specific stylus question in a new thread about this. To reflect our commitment, we updated our terms and conditions. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. I am elated with this excellent & reasonably priced turntable and the service the seller provided free of charge. The stylus features a highly polished I've had good results with the following: Pickering TMZ 22E (MM): https://www.thakker.eu/en/pickup/pickering-tmz-22e-cartridge/a-5164/, Ortofon OMP-20, 30, 40 (MM): https://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?/phoncart.htm, Technics EPC-310MC (difficult to find MC cart)), Technics EPC-202ED (difficult to find boron cantilever MM). Some slight mods to the body necessary , but i assume it was Highly recommended for an economical upgrade. I'll have a look into a few of them. Please try again. Etsy offsets carbon emissions from shipping and packaging on this purchase.