Installing your own inground pool liner is easy, when you take it step by step. Returns have a permanent rubber gasket, like a step section, but also use a gasket on top of the liner. It seems like a long time and lots of bromine tabs and shock to eventually get a stable level. Large 24s can be used to roughly screed flat areas, finishing with the trowel. Push it down behind the liner a few feet, about a foot above the floor. When the water level is up to the bottom of the light, have someone with long arms lean way over the edge of the pool and screw on the large light niche ring and gasket. Keep the vacuum running until the shallow end is covered in 3-6 of water! In some cases, you have to move on, and work on them later, as the last few wrinkles may be more easily worked out when there is a few inches of water covering the area. If the liner looks loose or is wrinkled, pull up on it, or push out on it. You can also use two pool poles at 90 deg angles to each other, to help hold the vertical pole in position, on larger pools. Install during 65-85 F. If cold, keep the liner inside a warm house until ready. Then once it is locked into the track, the Liner Lock product is used. Cut it with your razor knife into long strips, roll-up and remove in sections. Most inground vinyl pools have a geometric floor shape, with precise angles. They may need to lower the water level a foot or two, to be able to get enough stretch, to pull the liner back into the track, and may use some heat on the vinyl, for the same reason. But only if the liner is young, and still pliable enough. I am installing new step mouldings w/ new liner: Looks like I install the mouldings to the steps first after liner is in position & salt bages against liner to hold in position. Sanitizer level should be near zero, and the pH should be between 6 8, to protect your local watershed, but it need not be clean and clear. The remaining water can be removed with a pool cover pump or small submersible pump. Darker colors will absorb slightly more solar energy. Next step is to hook up your Cyclone Blower Vac to set the liner. I do use the bromide starter. If you have an inground pool light, with a cord that runs through the wall, you will have to remove the light completely, to install a new liner. Corded electric drills can be hazardous around pool water (cordless is ok). Screw down very tightly with a #3 Phillips screwdriver. Even with vermiculite or concrete floors, try not to enter the pool, and if you must, walk very gently. Zone 6 (Toronto). Wait to install step, light, skimmer and return faceplates until water level is up to them. thanks. With at least 3 people, one to hold the shallow end wall, two others will grab opposite sides of the liner and pull it across the pool to the deep end wall. Dont forget your name and contact information! I just installed a new liner but there appears to be a small pebble on the pool floor that didnt get vacuumed prior to install. For the vacuum hose, I usually use a mid point of a long wall, somewhere equidistant to all points. Leave enough cord behind the pool light to pull it up on deck for service. I am trying to replace my liner but i have a high water table and can not stop the water even with hydro cement. Hang liner and install gasket/sealing ring. No tripped breakers! What I mean by Set the Liner is this; we place a hose (or flat manifold shown here with the Cyclone blower) behind the liner, in between the pool and the liner and suck out all of the air with a vacuum. Some are only 5 gpm, however. Carefully pull the liner from the track by lifting up and outwards, the plastic track may be brittle and can crack if stressed. The purpose is to grab the liner off of the shallow end floor, and pull it towards the shallow end wall, to take up the natural slack that the liner will have towards the deep end. I have two pipes one on each side of the deep end i have been told they are dry wells. First, shut off power and open up the junction box. You can also use a large, heavy duty shop-vac of at least 5 hp to set the liner. It has white clips in specific increments around it. do you glue it to keep it in place ? Pull the wire cord out into the pool, pulling until the string comes into the light niche. Or if not, heres some help: Accurate measurements are key to getting a liner that fits like a glove. To measure depth of shallow end (D), just use a rigid measuring tape, being careful to measure from the bead or track, to the flat floor. Hi Michael, yes I would be alright with that, however I think I would delay most of the backfilling up against the walls, until spring, but yes you can excavate for the pool and trenches, install the walls, install plumbing and electric and the filter system, so then in spring you just have to finish the floor, backfill and tamp and install the liner, then landscaping and walking surfaces around the pool. I dont usually use the skimmer, but just pull open a second of the liner (about 6) and pop the hose in, then seal it up with duct tape. Installing an inground vinyl liner is not too difficult, especially if youve measured correctly. Continue to fill as you remove the vacuum hose and duct tape and pop this area into the liner bead track. The SS screws can be reused as long as the Phillips heads are not worn smooth, aka stripped. You may ask why not just put on the step tracks and screws? That is done later, after the liner has stretched into place. Reconnect the cord to the string securely, and pull the cord back through the conduit to the J-box. A clip board and pencil to write down the pool measurements. Now that you can see the wall, inspect it closely for corrosion, rust or any odd stains. Yes, turn the vacs back on, and look closely for any wrinkles that may need persuasion, or pushing towards the walls, as you fill. Green water is OK! Be sure to crank those screws down very tightly, using a #3 Phillips. If there is too much water on top of a wrinkle, say more than a foot, it can be harder to pull them out. Sand bags or water bags can also be used to hold wrinkles back until the pool fills. When you get ready to begin, the first steps are to safely drain the pool to the storm drain or far from the pool, where it wont flow back under the pool. And in the corners you can see a bigger gap where the liner is pulling away. Be Prepared for the Prep Work, so you can finish wall and floor prep as fast as possible. Pay particular attention to where the wall meets the floor. Order the correct gaskets (they differ by Manuf. Everything I read says the take the new liner to the deep end with the arrow facing the shallow end to start installation. If your steel walls are rusty, or to just add a soft feel to your walls, 1/8 thick wall foam is added to the walls before you install the new liner. A little more math, and you can figure out how long it will take to fill the pool from a hose. Crank them down until you hear the plastic squeak and creak. Good Luck Ive had similar situations Ive worked with before PS while the pool is drained, you could measure the pool for a new liner, just in case you need it (now or later)- and because its more accurate to measure when empty. Step Sections: There are several ways to seal up the step. Very difficult to remove and replace, but it can be patched with epoxy putty, or painted. Dont pull up on the liner as you make your initial screw holes, leave a little slack. On the flip side, being too hot can also be a problem. if not what is the next most durable liner. I have 80 wire to the switch so this would work best if you agree. Pennies or Popsicle sticks can be useful as a shim to hold the liner in place as you move it around to line it up to the pool corners. Clean off the pool deck if needed, to keep the pool clean. the worst that could happen is that it wears a hole in the liner after several years of the water weight, or pool cleaner running over it, then you can pull it thru the vinyl and apply a small vinyl patch over the hole. Small wrinkles up against the wall should flatten out as water fills the pool. If your fill water has less than perfect water chemistry, or contains high levels of minerals and metals, such as common in well-water, consider using a pre-filter on your garden hose. How do I get it out? To install the step strips, start with the bottom strip, and with a cordless drill, screw all of the bottom strip screws in place, starting in the center and working your way to the outside. If you have a step section in the shallow end, you can use some duct tape for now, to help hold the liner over the span of the steps. When measuring the slope from shallow to deep (F), do not measure down the slope, but measure horizontally to a pole held vertically. Float the pool light across the pool, and hook/duct tape your string/wire to the pool light cord. When the pool is full, install the faceplates and gaskets very tightly with a proper size screwdriver. In some cases you can just use a lot of duct tape, but for larger steps, youll need to lay something flat across the top of the steps, and duct tape that to the deck and to the liner, to be able to achieve a full seal. You can also use a cover pump, or a wet/dry vac or even old towels, to get up the last few gallons. I seen in a video to tape cardboard over one of the skimmers and insert the hose there do you recommend that practice? When done measuring, check that A and B measurements add up to the total of all length and width measures. If you have a main drain, you will need to install the faceplate ring and the lid at this point, after the liner is set. Carefully remove, with a large #3 Philips screwdriver, the faceplates for the skimmer(s), wall return(s), main drains, pool lights, and pool step sections. website. Most average size pools will fill from the hose(s) in 36-72 hours. If they run diagonally, you may need to shift the liner in the track somewhat. If you have any areas that are cracked or broken, Super Glue makes a quick repair. Hi William, that would be something, however there is only vinyl available for pool liners. Now do I cut the new mouldings on a 45 angle @ the bottom corners and round them off, or just but the side mouldings to the top of the bottom one ?- I have end caps if butted. Check the weather, flood waters and high water tables can cause problems for an empty pool. Make sure all valves on the filter system are closed to prevent sucking air through the pipes. To get every last drop of water, and drain the pool completely, remove the main drain cover and use a sponge and bucket. Dont use incorrect screws, or non-stainless steel screws. If the floor is a sand bottom, you may just try to work the pebble into the floor. Wall foam can also be added just to improve the feel of the wall, which feels rather hard and cold without it. If you see rust, this indicates that it has been leaking. We just had a new liner installed on our inground pool. Install the main drain gasket, ring and cover when 3-6 has filled the deep end. Plug into a strong 20 amp outlet, keep the vac plug dry if raining. Older liners shrink somewhat when water is removed. Banging the lower wall with a push broom, or gently persuading wrinkles with the the wood edge of a push broom works well. I would suggest using a double-dose of bromide starter next time you drain and refill. Easy peasy. Wrinkles or uneven stretching will result if the floor height (or depth) is not equal all around the edges and across the floor. Warranty is another way that liner manufacturers differentiate their products, but keep in mind that a true warranty claim, for defects in materials or manufacture, is rare. This is discussed as Option 3, in this blog post Inground Pool Construction and Groundwater Issues. From a Truck:Expensive to do, it can cost over $1000 in some areas to fill a pool. To work out wrinkles in a liner, you can use your hands to massage or spread out the wrinkle. cord, to not trip the breaker. Discharge the pool water too close to the pool, and it can weep into the pool, or put pressure on weak walls. If the liner fit is either too tight or too loose in the track, you can use strips of Liner Lock, a rubber wedge that you push-in between the liner and the track. Some wet/dry vacs arent strong enough for the job. If you can afford it, I would always recommend choosing a thicker liner 28 or 30 mil, rather than a standard 20 mil pool liner. If you have a sand bottom, you can sometimes push wrinkles in, to the floor, if they are very small folds. Davy: I fill my spa from well water so I always use a metal-be-gone type of product when I start. is there such a thing as an inground pool liner made of kevlar. When the plate is re-installed, cut out the vinyl inside the faceplate and flood the lines with water. Switch sides and measure the width of the opposite side wall. Hows it Hanging? These are fairly standard, but its best to use the form provided by the dealer that you plan to order the liner from. Hi John, the light will have to come out before you install the liner. But, monitor the outflow, and if the flow rate drops considerably, allow the well to catch up, or call in some delivered pool water. Floor wrinkles can be pulled out by leaning over the pool edge and pulling on the liner, or using a push broom or pool brush to push them towards the wall. Paint it with a rust tolerant paint like Rust-O-leum or Krylon. Hi Jon, sounds like what those are used for, a dry well that you can connect a pump to, probably had the same problem when building the pool. Then, trim out the vinyl carefully and close to the edge of the step strip. Can i pump them out to stop water from going in the pool? Start in the shallow end center, and pull opposite each other, to remove small amounts of slack, while keeping the corners in place. We dont install these until the pool is full, because the liner is still stretching into place.