Then I discovered the boxer brief liner is no longer. The sad realization is that they have changed the design. Would be great to either go back to the liner or provide both options. Now, I can e Read Moreither buy with the liner that is uncomfortable, or I can buy shorts without the pocket combination I love but that won't chafe. My only preference is that they have a boxer brief liner as opposed to the current liner. Get the Patagonia Baggies from REI for $55. t comfortable enough to wear lounging around the house. I love the bright blue (just a little different than the older ones my husband has that have the brief liner). Weve pledged 1% of sales to the preservation and restoration of the natural environment. The pocket system is still amazing you can carry so much without bouncing or awkwardness (just cinch waist appropriately based on added weight). Like many others that have reviewed these shorts I have been a big fan of the Strider pros with the boxer brief liner from past seasons. The shorts are super lightweight and the fabric is soft and comfortable. The Nine Trails Shorts offer the boxer brief for those that like it. These feel great and look cool, lightweight and full featured, love 'em, want more. 1. Its a brief liner so it really digs in. Usually I run long runs too, but haven't tested these on any yet - however, I expect t Read Morehem to feel and perform similar to my older Strider Pro shorts. The liner material is awesome - super breathable and exactly what you want generally for hot weather but the liner cut is just too tight without enough material give in all the right places. The fabric used for the boxer brief was the perfect blen. There arent very many pros breaking the winners tape at Boston, Comrades, or the WSER sportin boxers (Some? I would prefer th Read Moreese pockets to be couple inches farther back as I sometimes nick a full pocket with my hand on the trail descending or on technical terrain while flailing my hands about searching for balance. I don't have to wear a belt and it felts perfectly. And these are perfect! Sure. The XS was very tight in the thighs and butt. Our design team takes a number of things into account when redesigning a product from customer feedback to suggestions from our ambassadors. Came bac Read Morek to buy the 7" and the reviews confirm that the best feature is now gone. The slit up the side got torn up the stitching and is barely hanging in there with one of the pairs. Not sure about these, but in the past other very similar Patagonia brief liners have chafed me on ultra-runs. I thought it might stretch out a bit so I've used them 6-8 times, wash in cold water and always hang them to dry etc but no luck. The rear zipper pocket allows for a typically sized wallet or a package of cliff bars. patagonia always has quality items. Not to beat a dead horse but the brief liner must be too tight-- I can usually wear a brief liner without issues but I did get chafing after about 10 miles. Bought these to wear in my 100 miler in a month. they always impress me. The slit up the side got torn up the stitching and is barely hanging in there with one of the pairs. I see several "too small" reviews, for what it's worth I'm 5'10" 150lbs 32ish waist and for me the medium fit is absolutely perfect. I was disappointed to see that the longer liner was no more. Material is the perfect material for very hot weather - you feel cool as the breeze. The elastic pockets are just enough to carry keys and my cell phone without being a Read Morennoying like traditional pockets in workout shorts, fantastic. Your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html). The material is super lightweight-- noticeably lighter than my other shorts with fewer pockets. I prefer to wear ExOfficio give and go boxer briefs rather than the liner. If I were a pro runner I'd probably like that feature, but truly I wish this short just came exactly as is minus the hip/waist gel pack pockets. The fit was really tight on the brief liner, and led to chafing on my first 8 mile test run. The various pockets are nice and my iPhone 11 Pro fits in the zippered back pocket just fine. 50 miles? My wife does think they look silly for a running short, because they just look like bigger, looser "normal" shorts and not running shorts. With a 5-inch inseam, these shorts are the right length for keeping cool. I will definitely be getting additional pairs. But for short runs is ok. Maybe better one size up. I wear them to the gym and because they are so soft and fit so well, I end up wearing them all day. I am a. The name includes pro and the description clearly states theyre constructed with a brief liner. Now you have gone and added a useless and movement restricting short-inside-of-a-short liner, instead of keeping the previous brief liner. Runs small. The rear zipper pocket is also exactly what I need. Rarely.). Size Large ended up being right, but with not much extra room. The same can be said for the pockets - the material in 2018 seemed to be more of a stretchy material. however, now the liner doesn't bother me at all. Ladi Read Morees, here are the specs if youre looking for fit: 59 138lbs and the small is perfect. I can easily stash a granola bar or similar there. uncomfortable. The leg slits provide plenty of mobility. After wearing them all day and going on a bike ride I've decided I really like them but I'm still unsure about the liner. regardless, i think this running piece is spot on. It looks like there are plenty of other runners who don't like the boxers - fair enough. Now it's one of the best shorts that I have ever run in especially for long distance. Definitely more likely to hoard the v1 shorts, save them for "special" runs. The side pockets are a little funky but good for keys. The right-side pocket also features an elastic loop to secure your keys. My son is now wearing those. The name includes pro and the description clearly states theyre constructed with a brief liner. I have worn on a few training runs and so far and have been very happy with them. patagonia makes superb products and i'm sure they'll fix this issue soon. When I first bought this short, I was not a fan but mainly because of the tight feeling. Great material - very light weight. I was nervous buying these as a lot of reviews were complaining about the change in liner design from the boxer breifs to the mesh net. Let everyone choose the liner type that works for them and please ALL your customers. The pocket at the back fits my phone perfectly. Not only was the box. I recently ordered the black size M. and returned because it was way too tight and then ordered the green size M thinking maybe there was a quality control issue between the colors. Patagonia's Baggies are a great summertime short. I did not review the 2018 version of the Strider Pro, but had I, they would have been 5 stars. They were close, but the Large is a better fit. Same pockets, same fit & length, two options on liner. the brief liner. I Loved these shorts. They are my go to for long trail runs and ultra marathons. Love this shorts for long runs. I'm now wondering if I should return them for a large or just wait to see if the fit issues are fixed in next year's model. I would wear these shorts forever and would like to order more pairs, but sadly P. atagonia has moved to a more minimal liner that will probably not get the job done for me for longer runs, but maybe for skinnier dudes! Only grips: the zippered pocket in back is uncomfortable when laying on my back stretching, and ideally a charcoal or true gray color would work better to pair with the soccer jerseys I like to work out in. There's just simply no room in the liner. We appreciate you taking the time to give us your feedback on that liner. Sorry Patagonia but you failed on this desi Read Moregn change. Hey Nicholas! Everything about them is okay but that liner man is super tight. Cuts and colors need to me more flattering, contemporary and hipper. Size Large ended up being right, but with not much extra room. Like, bad enough to throw away. I don't have to wear a belt and it felts perfectly. It has been comfy and chafe free on 2+ hour runs. It will hold an ID, credit card and your house key with the loop. I now find myself tracking down old stock before they all vanish. Very light weight. Please change the liner. I was disappointed to see that the longer liner was no more. I want to like the 5" version but I'm not really sure what the benefit would be besides looking a little trendier. Soft, comfortable, and my favorite feature was the boxer-like liner. I have the 9 trails shorts in M as well and they fit perfectly. Patagonia has been selling this short for a while and this is a great product, it would be nice to have the option to have a longer lining for those, like myself, who prefer it. Definitely a poor redesign. You had the perfect shorts with the pockets and the boxer liner, and now you took away one of the best featu Read Moreres. I wear them to the gym and because they are so soft and fit so well, I end up wearing them all day. I wear the pros way more than the regulars with the long boxer briefs as the liner. Didn't realize until they arrived that the boxer liner is no more - swapped for a brief. I really hate wearing them and these shorts allow me to carry more than enough jells and bars to get the job done. The Strider pro shorts are what running shorts should be-simple, practical, comfortable. I am SUPER excited that these do not have boxer briefs! or maybe there's a break-in period. (Just a side note, I've been struggling with many Patagonia items over the last couple years while I used to like almost everything I got from Patagonia but I will say that this is a good short and the Airshed Pullover is one of the most awesome layers I have ever owned from Patagonia or any company. These are great shorts, comfortable with many usable pockets. Love the brief liner and overall a great short! however, these shorts seem to be of very thin fabric. When they reemerged I was excited to stockpile- glad I didn't! Why? I like these shorts. The company also offers a similar less technical pair of shorts with a longer/boxer style liner. I originally purchased the new shorts in my traditional patagonia size (sm) and noticed that the shorts run a size smaller than previous seasons. i wish these shorts were available with both liner options. You might like the boxer brief liner of our [Strider Shorts](https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-strider-running-shorts-7-inch/24649.html?dwvar_24649_color=BLK&cgid=mens-shorts-running). Ive taken a few tumbles down a mountain in them and each time have walked away with new holes in them. A lighter repeatedly wiggles its way out during tossing and turning while sleeping. Same issue on the 5in. Light, quick drying, breathable, and comfortable. I own two pairs of the older versions and have run 100 mile races in them. I understand the personal preference, and I prefer a little less fabric in that area. Now that I have the correct size I actually like the new liner better than the boxer brief liner and the shorts are more lightweight and packable than previous seasons. Versatility is also a huge plus with Baggies. And then they decided hey, instead of the boxer-brief style liner, let's change it to a panty style liner with thick seams. Both in depth and around the legs. I wear the pros way more than the regulars with the long boxer briefs as the liner. Personally I like the 7 in. Great running and hiking shorts. Otherwise these are ideal running shorts with great pockets, a nice light and airy fabric, good length, comfortable waistband with the tie on the outside (which is brilliant, not sure why all running shorts aren't made that way). The shorts have a trim fit which I love, not a lot of extra fabric flopping around. 3.5 stars really. I absolutely love the last version of the Strider - own 2 pair and wear them religiously. Patagonia's designers plainly don't run. Pockets work great for gels without any jostling. I originally purchased the Men's Strider shorts (7") in size small. Orders are shipped within 1-2 business days and arrive within 3 business days (up to 5 business days for remoteaddresses). Sending these back. The 2019 edition eliminated the full liner, and substituted, a very short version that actually encourages chaffing. Consistent fit seems to be a problem for Patagonia; these seem to run a little on the small side; I usually wear small to medium an Read Mored these mediums fit me just right. Very comfy and lightweight, and have swayed me enough that I'm willing to spend the money for a couple more pairs. The stretch material of the pockets is an improvement--definitely they will hold more. Bring Back the Boxer Brief!!!! I'll be buying another pair this summer. Good fit. Best of all, these shorts lasts forever. I kept them thinking they may stretch out, but no such luck. No problem. We appreciate your feedback, Robert! The lining in these are a little snug for me, but they are still better than extra material that traps heat, like b. oxer briefs.