After I screwed the bridge posts to the plate with nuts so the bridge couldn't rock, it stayed in tune too. Fender Pro Reverb Subject, Frondelli Master Volume for Bassman Micro EF80, Blues Junior - extremely high voltage problem (1300 Vdc on EL84 plate). The guys from Sonic Youth swear by them, considering they are slightly heavier players than the guitar was originally geared towards I imagine this would hold up pretty well. M1-KIT: M1 Mastery Bridge and set of MT Mastery Thimbles Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Let us know how it goes. Then I swapped to new strings, the night before the concert. Regarding the livegig: The bridge seems to hold the tuning better than the original one. If you have an American made offset guitar made from 2013-now, order the M1-KIT. It's sometimes a good idea to file a groove in the saddles for where you want the string to stay. To use the stock bridge you must use 12's and over, and even then it's not ideal. Home M1: Mastery Bridge for your American-made guitar M1-KIT: M1 Mastery Bridge and set of MT Mastery Thimbles If you have an AOM/TOM style bridge please review the AOM/TOM link below. - - Try hard-refreshing this page to fix the error. The bridge feels very solid, heavy, no-bullshit-like. If you need assistance replacing them, please contact your local luthier. . So I was very keen to play it together with the band and amplified. Surely if you are to purchase a jag/jazzy you would be familiar with the problems of the trem/bridge so you'd pay a visit to a site like this to improve it. The Gear Page is the leading online community and marketplace for guitars, amps, pedals, effects and associated gear. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field FIRST, Then ask the community. At the very least I am going to run up to the manufacture some time this week and see one installed on one of their in house guitars. Vintage style thimbles found on this model are fairly easy to replace. Really solid and chunky, no rattles at all and it just exudes quality. This is nothing special to the Mastery Bridge, the same happens with Tune-O-Matic style and the stock bridge. AOM/TOM style bridges were not originally designed/intended for use on Offset style guitars with vibratos. "Yeah we should definitely jam some time". Strings running directly over your pickup poles is a non-issue; influence on sound is negligible, and more than likely, it'll have your strings at the very edge of the fretboard. Ive been playing Jazzmasters for 20+ years, why are you set on swapping the bridge? The Jazzmaster I'm referring to is the one in the middle of the picture. The mastery was primarily designed for jazzmasters and jaguars. That was the case with my setup. Best place for gear snobbery too! The other two will get Masterys as money permits, unless something else turns my head. The outside diameter of Mexican made thimbles are sometimes slightly smaller and if needed, we suggest opening the body wood holes up by drilling in REVERSE with a 3/8 bit to accommodate our USA vintage spec size thimbles. Post spacing, post size, bushing size and tolerances vary greatly on these mostly Korean made bridges and we do not make threaded style mounting posts as they do not function as well as standard USA style thimbles with our original post design. The words Fender, Telecaster, Stratocaster and the associated headstock designs are registered trademarks of the Fender Musical Instruments Corporation. If you want to stop the mustang bridge rocking just wrap tape or aluminum foil around it, problem solved. Same M1 Mastery Bridge as our USA model, but comes with an additional set of larger mounting posts required for most older Japanese made instruments. One guy wrote he is going back to the Mustang bridge because he prefers the feel of it and it functions just as good. Regarding playability and sound the bridge is definitly an improvment to all the solutions I came across so far (Mustang saddles, taped bridge stems, adding a shim, Tune-O-Matic bridge, buzzstop device). Staytrem is a great option. +1 on the Mastery. After the over-critical phase right after installing the bridge and the very sceptical does it sound different, is it different, what does it do to my guitar inspection detailed above I have to admit that theres no looking back. I think people shouldn't knock it until they try it however. I just did my monthly visit of OSG classifieds and noticed a few Mastery Bridges surfacing in there. I revised the setup and the intonation, not much to change. If you need assistance replacing them, please contact your local luthier. Maybe they dont care about 100% intonation, maybe its not a problem. This bridge is not intended for replacing a plate-style, traditional tele bridge. For more information on our thimbles visit our specs page. They aren't as bad as people usually say, at the same time, I do have Mustang bridges on two of them and a Mastery on the third. You need to take care that the intonation screws have some tension or pressure on them. The only deal thats going on is between me and Frank Deimel he sold me the bridge at prime cost plus VAT and shipping, and in return I link back to his website. It is far out of my budget. I had to set the hight e string very near to the fretboards edge and since I had installed a mustang saddle at the low e position, I had to position the rest of the strings evenly between these two positions, resulting in a spacing that was different to what may be expected as normal (and sitting slightly off-set to the pus polepieces)./Update. REPEAT: We only make one vintage USA spec size thimble, if you currently have a threaded post bridge design on your guitar you will need to convert it to accept our USA spec thimbles. youll get the mechanical means to really hear what your guitar is able to deliver for good or for bad. I have a Warmoth Jazzmaster with a Warmoth Modified Mustang bridge that works perfectly. The bridge really added more sustain to my old Jazzmaster, an yes, it is recognizable even with the guitar played dry, not plugged in. So it wont play properly? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, '97 California Series Strat / '12 AVRI '62 Jazzmaster. My band-mates didnt hear any difference, but they are used to me getting on and off excited about my sound (some nights the amp and guitar sound incredibly good, other nights, with the same setup kind of lame) :-). I'm building a couple of Jazzmasters right now and have gone round and round with this very issue. Is it a case of easy option so i don't have to get used to the stock jazz/jag and stang bridge. If you want to play 10's, the Mastery bridge is the only solution that works and sounds great. Good. Alternately, if you're heavy handed (or cheap, like meself) I really like Mustang bridges, and while I find the MIJ stuff more than adequate, the StayTrem looks like a really high quality piece of kit as well. The strings are perfectly aligned with the polepieces of both pickups, a result of the thorough research and prototyping with lots of different original bridges. My well used Jaguar and Jazzmaster's bridge do just fine, and those are the only two guitars I can see having any sort of issues a Mastery might fix (in particular, string slippage). TDPRI, short for Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue, is the leading online community and marketplace for Telecaster guitars. The changes to the sound are subtle, but noteable. This is a small business and they take it personal. The J Mascis Jazzmaster with a TOM requires drilling holes in the pickguard to accommodate standard Jazzmaster body thimbles. It eventually shifts and you are slightly out of tune. although at that price i'm not sure it'd be an easy option. (Update: They offer a 30day return policy: We are so certain that youll be completely satisfied with the Mastery Bridge that we back it with a 30-day unconditional money back guarantee. My first attempt, to recreate the settings and the position of my stock bridge, was not optimal). One thing I did not mention before; the guys at Mastery Bridge are incredibly helpful. The 50th Anniversary Jaguar is all USA build. With the cost of a Staytrem these days, the Mastery is a better deal, unless you are in England. I find it silly that people are so against it and haven't even played it. You'll always want to check the truss rod and make sure your neck is where you want it to be, you'd do that after most string changes anyway. Putting a mastery on a mustang is pointless cause the strings don't slip or buzz and the strings have a short and sharp break angle from bridge to vibrato,like a gibson LP does which results in no buzz etc.. Theres also the TOM option which would save you about $120. Problems solved. Years of using the wrong spacing are taking their toll :). You are using an out of date browser. Is there a secret to easy threading of strings with a top-loading bridge? Or it shouldn't, anyway. Since the manufacturing of the bridge is really solid, and the audible sustain-gain is a winner, I will continue to use the bridge, but my stock bridge is still a close follower if I wont get used to the narrower spacing, even if this seems to be the correct spacing. With brand new strings, the acoustic sound is very impressive. Ill try this and will update this text accordingly. Would I need to have any drilling done to install it? Btw, you can adjust the radius on a Jaguar/Jazzmaster bridge. The guitar is originally designed in a time when thicker strings were the norm and Fender just hasn't bothered fixing the issue because some sod would cry foul about messing with the "vintageness" of it. M1-KIT: M1 Mastery Bridge and set of MT Mastery Thimbles My tech set the bridge to follow the radius closest to the bridge. The neck is screwed on it won't go anywhere when you switch out a bridge. Or use a Gotoh TOM for $30. Personally, I've never had a single problem with a reasonably well set up AVRI unit, and it's not rocket science to make them work. Of all the Fender forums OSG.com seems to be the only place that has embraced this bridge, which i think is a reflection of the user age group. The M1 Mastery Bridge and its mounting posts fit all vintage and used American made Fender offset guitars made prior to 2013. , Why try a bridge that i know wont intonate on my guitars tunings? Through this discussion of bridges, I just learned a shytload. The cool thing about this is that it fits without any modification, and you can adjust the bridge radius! And I agree with fran about them. It's pricey, but it's just one of those things that's just worth doing right. I mostly play in standard tuning, with an occasional dropped d. I think if intonation required that the a or the b string needed to be placed out of line with the neighbouring strings, this would not be possible.