Waiting for Edge 540/840 release to switch over. > This finding is based on a check of the elevation data field. These allow it to match the color-coding that youve specified for your zones, in effect mimicking what Wahoo has historically used the glanceable LEDs for on the edge of their devices. I have solved all my problems with the Bolt 2.Ive bought a new Bolt 1 which works perfectly. At the end of the day, Im an athlete just like you looking for the most detail possible on a new purchase so my review is written from the standpoint of how I used the device. It depends on what is important to you. I dont think Ive heard reports of bricking any units (meaning, killing them). Heres the old BOLT stacked atop the new BOLT (as the new BOLT is bigger). Have almost all of Europe/North America/Australia maps preloaded (with rest of world available via WiFi download) Battery door/cap also replaceable, versus previously not (could get torn off previously) I want to want to the Bolt but am hesitant. I have lost all faith in Wahoos ability to produce reliable products and associated software. Checking back on my action camera, I was passed by a pair of riders coming in the opposite direction (cropped to respect their privacy) at the point of GPS disruption. But at the end of the day, you might just be wondering What does Ray use when not testing new products?. As long as there is in this field, I guess there is no reasonable 3D GPS position available. Matteo Thanks a lot for your suggestion. The beep when you have approached the turn comes too late, i.e., when you already have passed the turn. Hi Pavel, I cant say anything to your first question, sorry. FWIW Ive been asking this to Wahoo support but it must be said its been a very painful experience (again). I ride roads and fair sky coverage. This is an absolute basic requirement, so why cant Wahoo get this fixed. Unfortunately, the issue persists. Though, even thats not always consistent. Ive plenty of similar awful exchanges with Wahoo Support. I felt palmed off with a boilerplate ignore there is any issue, reply. For me climb pro is very important feature as I ride a lot in the mountains. Checking Google Maps there is no issue with overhead visibility: link to goo.gl. After setting up the unit again with a new device id in the companion app I again tried the update, but with the same result. I have posted regarding this before, but more recent experiences have left me frustrated with the rerouting on the Bolt 2. By contrast, my Wahoo Cadence sendor (current model) frequently looses connection with my Bolt2. A 3-hour MTB ride with heart rate monitor and speed sensor on and navigation off takes between 15-17% of charge, depending on temperature. Dont they write regression tests (or is that too hard) ? Else, there wouldnt be a Wahoo engineer parked outside the DCR cave right now off re-riding my yesterday ride with a just-released developer test firmware that might solve at least one of my core issues. I agree, My Bolt V2 works excellent. Chunks of ride files lost, live tracking randomly ending 1-mile into a ride. I bought my V2 on release day and had some issues for the first few months. So in efforts to combat the amount of emails I need to sort through on a daily basis, Ive complied this My Photography Gear post for your curious minds! Elevation accuracy is fine in my case, just a few meters off. Strava or Komoot or anyone else) didnt provide that elevation data with the route sent to it, you didnt get the elevation data mid-ride, showing how long the climb was or how pancake flat (most of) the Netherlands is. Cross my fingers that I do not need another factory reset which could change the game again. However, TBT notification (beep) always came too late by about 2 seconds (i.e., 2 seconds after I had to make the turn). I turned it off and turned it back on many hours later to find the loss of a few more % points of charge. After two weeks intensive use of the Bolt v2, I cant confirm issues with GPS accuracy and temperature; they both are fine. Its entirely plausible the engineer that departed here a few minutes ago with the most recent internal development build will come back without failures, thus passing off the unit to me to ride for a bit and see if I can break it. By the way, no issue with temperature readings: Bolt v2: min 17 deg, max 25 deg; Edge 530: min 15 deg, max 24 deg. Finally the temperature reading is close to correct, even slightly lower, on powerup gps lock is faster, and altitude more accurate (still cant understand why we cannot have fav locations with known altitude) Added color display Or, maybe hell stop at the now open bar terraces and call it done. Very disappointed. Youll see blue chevrons on the screen indicating the re-route taking you back on course. Yesterday, I compared the start-up time of my original Elemnt with that of the Bolt 2 and it appears since the last firmware update both are comparable. I suggest to wait for the Edge 530 successor, which I expect will be launched very soon; even Garmin reduced the price to 249.- Euro from originally 299.- Euro. If I stop at the turn it says the turn I am at is anywhere from 22 ft up to over 100 ft ahead. they still havent sorted out the Bolt2. The other benefit of USB-C ports is they tend to be more durable long-term as well. My unit will be picked up on Wednesday by UPS due to the navigation page problems (map & chevrons disappear randomly when pushing start). Just to share, after recent updates, the device is almost flawless. However, it lacked full onboard routable maps, as well as a color screen. I have yet to have a single cohesive ride without significant issues. Here's a few other variants or sibling products that are worth considering: And finally, heres a handy list of accessories that work well with this unit (and some that I showed in the review). I aim to leave no stone unturned. There are almost no new unique features that the ROAM didnt have previously, so if you wanted a cheaper/smaller ROAM, then this is likely for you. I went 6 miles the wrong direction on yesterdays ride because it didnt tell me otherwise, mapping was often minutes behind my actual position (when it, rarely, worked). I bought Bolt v2 hoping it will be excellent device. A few comments above seem to hint this is an issue with the Bolt V2. As I stlll had the opportunity to make use of the 30-day warranty, I decided to return the unit, but I am prepared to accept a new unit without this flaw. It started off at 5C HIGH gor about 9 months. GP Llama has posted a YT video that shows the latest firmware update 13917 speeds up screen switching. Hi Gwynn, That is far too much. But if youre looking for equal or more refined features, I dont think youll get what you want. Also, I saw that bryton released a new gps last week, the rider s500. These all correctly fast charge an iPhone12. Wahoo is frantically trying to figure it out, and perhaps theyll have a solution this afternoon. Thats like 2 1/2 football fields! The battery issues is still there for me too. I tried to find one but no luck . Good, lets keep moving and crack open that box then. So Ive had to disconnect the home trainer, which is a shame because the FE-C trainer control from the Bolt was a nice feature. Get all your awesome DC Rainmaker gear here! Hopefully you found this review useful. The color is a nice addition. It doesn't have any other features beyond that. Thats because some users reported that there is no cover at all or that 1-2 covers (not attached to the Bolt v2) were delivered and worried about loosing them. I can use it, but if I knew Wahoo could not fix it in 5 months, I would never have bought it. I have lost a lost of faith in Wahoo. Cloudy day (no sunshine). Generally speaking I dont have major issues with the Bolt, unlike others here, but their support really is abismal. Heres a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that Ive put together and posted. It was more of an issue years ago, as these days virtually all of Wahoos 3rd party routing apps send the data correctly. This is an open ticket item with Wahoo. So, I went into View routes>add a route (+)> Create from history. On one occasion, the Bolt2 displayed a Max Cadence of 74rpm even though it was not showing current Cadence. Before the factory reset, one problem was that the distance to the turn shown on the screen was always too long, by about 20-25 m. After the factory reset, the distance is too long by 30-80 m, which is definitely too much. Wahoo just cant seem to get it right after repeated updates. Enjoy, and thanks for stopping by! ( none) but the buttons and lack of simple use, well its just gone back. Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? The vague statement from Wahoo Avoid using Apple brand AC charging adapters is not only too vague to be any use but it alludes to something not workinging as expected. 5. Make sure you check for and install any FW updates and repeat untill its up to date. But in time TBT notification is more important to me than re-routing. Nothing much. I believe that the only acoustic/visual notification is about 250 m before the turn. Hello, will you be posting a long term review of the unit soon? Heres whats still not working correctly: 1. SMDH. DC Rainmaker 2021 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. Hameed, I have used both for navigation when away from home. Todays ride without HR or Power meter sensors connected showed a 10% fall in charge within the first 3 km followed by another 15% loss over the next 80 mins of gentle pedalling. I see on my rides that if I stop and track with chevrons is in front of me and then turn bike 90 degrees left or right the track to follow is still in front of me so completely wrong direction. By the way, during the 90 min ride, I also used my old original Elemnt also without speed sensor. I cant confirm that the error in the distance accumulates. Ive got countless tests similar to that where I easily force re-routes and it handles it without issue. Not much hope of getting what you want from Wahoo Im afraid. It notifies you of overtaking traffic. I have been less active that I was hoping this winter and only use my Bolt2 on an indoor trainer. Every time I get a Bolt2 update, the Wahoo Cadence sensor is lost, yet the sensor is reported as working from within the App and shows a good green bar signal but does not show on the Bolt 2 or the data. Replaced my Bolt V1 with a V2. Am I doing something wrong, or is it a typical Wahoo were working on it issue? Very short segments are notorious for being inaccurate, if a gps fix is just a second or two late at point a, then hits point b on time itll be a shorter/faster run. o plan bike tracks who is better? Mostly because try as I might, things simply havent been usable for me. I am very satisfied with my Bolt 2 as are many thousands of others no doubt. I might get down to some halfway acceptable hills later this week though, so Ill pull it into my full review then. Elevation readings are higher as well, not very accurate. My 4iiii power meter doesnt have this problem. Other than that I am very satisfied with the Bolt v2. Here are my findings: turn on the unit; moved to the route page when possible; notice a window in the upper part with Acquiring GPS. I just dont get it. Very poor design IMHO and not as good as the Magene. Setting to auto fixed the mismatch. 7. I primarily use the aluminum ones though, because this mount comes with a GoPro (and light/Di2) adapter on the bottom. Thanks! Tracks (2 laps) as recorded on the Bolt v2. A search on USB power delivery will reveal how complex an issue this is. I agree. I don't find much of a need for one while road-cycling, but for mountain bike trails they can help alleviate speed/distance issues with poor GPS reception in dense trees. Red is mainly the old Bolt 1 heatmap. The TICKR X is Wahoo's top-end chest strap that not only does dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart (with two Bluetooth Smart channels), but also Running Dynamics, running pace, storage of workouts when you don't have a watch/phone, and even music control and laps. Battery life stays the same at a claimed 15 hours. I have tried quite a few Anker fast chargers, some with USB-A and some with USB-C connectors and none of them will fast charge the Bolt2 as I was expecting them to do. so if im doing 3 minute or 8 minute laps on different loops as well as focusing on keeping my power steady i need to remember to press the lap button on the same point..that seems uneccessary or i have to check and set the lap distance for each different loop and set it on my phone before i can use the distance auto lap? Agree that this might be a hardware issue that no amount of firmware upgrades will sort. That gets you an ad-free DCR, access to the DCR Quarantine Corner video series packed with behind the scenes tidbitsand it also makes you awesome. I would have been very surprised if the Bolt differed from the Roam in this respect. Ive also been holding off getting the new Bolt until Rays final review. If not then my original post is entirely valid. If charged with a quick charge USB it often doesnt charge but turns on instead (usually with a few minutes delay). I beginning to think that Wahoo have used cheap/inferior GPS chips. This sensor will automatically turn on the backlight in darker lighting conditions, such as tunnels or at night. First, heres my zones: And then you can see this playing out within the power field in blue, and the heart rate in yellow: Next, the new BOLT has expanded storage, now 16GB versus the 4GB previously (the ROAM also only has 4GB). You need to make sure the charger you are using is a high-output charger, for the later USB-C based phones, etc. The only issue that bothers me a bit are the ever so slightly (like a few seconds) delayed GPS relays for Strava segments. But it went awry again between 48 and 68km (part shown). Like any product others have had problems or had a feature critical to them missing but not me. Mine usually drops from 100% to 91% in about 5 minutes of use. In the meanwhile I believe that the Bolt v2 does not generate an acoustic signal (beep) immediately before the turn. The brightness on the Edge 530 changes gradually depending on the sensor input. I can only assume that Wahoo are developing a new working under the radar version of the Bolt2. FWIW, on the Roam you can switch to the route page and it will display an actual text box with the GPS reception status (e.g. Can you tell Im a bike noob? In May when the Bolt v2 was released my v2 wouldnt charge on my hp USB-C 65W notebook charger. Still in the app, my smartphone defaults to Brazilian Portuguese (phone is actually in Portuguese from Portugal). Thus, until I can get a single functional successful ride (hell, indoors or outdoors), its hard to start truly forming a long-term opinion of the new BOLT. Update: I had already requested a refund for my Bolt v2 due to the TBT problems after a factory reset Wahoo suggested. The GPS performance for my use case is adequate. I like the unprecedented quality of the screen, the ease of use and the design of the unit; I like the limited amount of functionality as I do not really miss anything. Still had sensor dropouts on the heart rate side, still have incorrect elevation data, still have no notifications, and theres still some quirky re-routing choices (not horrible, but kinda weird). 3. They asked me to remove and reinstall all maps and try it again. Im headed to Washington DC what do you recommend for training? Since then there had been several firmware updates but I didnt face similar situation so I am not sure the issue still exists. Only thing that I would like to get better now is a wahoo version of the climb pro (Garmin) or the similar climbing page of the Hammerhead. Texts used to but unfortunately no more. One minor thing is that while many of the minor tweaks discussed in this post will come to the existing Wahoo ELEMNT lineup, this particular one wont, as it requires substantially more storage space. Sorry about the long post, just thought to share my experience of someone is interested in buying one of these. Ive seen speed readings on bolt bolts without a speed sensor both under and over, steady riding yet fluctuating +/- 2 to 3 mph, sometimes jumping from about 30mph to 45-50mph is a very short space with acceleration a Tesla would be proud of, these are generally tree lined routes. Torn. The Garmin Varia radar alerts you to cars coming up behind you, well before you see them. Battery % is still unreliable and will drop to 90% in 10 minutes. do you think it is worth replacing it with the bolt v2? Do you have any insight into this? Also, the Bolt2 does not disconnect electrically from a charger when it reaches 100% of charge, and the battery charge will seep away over a day to about 60%. My old Bolt V1 never failed to track this segment. Have you reached out to their support? It works with the iPhone charger, though. However, more interesting than that though is the now included elevation data within the map set. A few weeks later that disappeared and everything works fine since then. Also if you happen to loose chevrons following a route then you cannot see your line to follow, correct? I agree that Wahoo screen is best, great visibility in all conditions. End of rant. You can click here to Subscribe without commenting. The issue with the language in the device is also that it mixes Portuguese and English in some menus, and this is not intuitive to have. I am looking forward to Roam v2 as Wahoo ease of use and great screen are best among all GPS computers. My Photography Gear: The Cameras and Equipment I Use Daily, DC Rainmaker 2021 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. Looks like they have forced me to go back to Garmin which is something I said I would never do having had 5 years of using the original Bolt. Thanks Alan for filling in the backgroundhappy with so many other things on the Bolt, it seems a shame to let a few niggles get to me. Yes, but what is the problem? I agree fully with Andrew and others, where is final review Ray? That is a serious App crash when when an external device conneced via Bluetooth starts up, that it crashes an App. I just updated to version WA27-14466 and now my Bolt 2 will not work. @ Alan: I can confirm your observations. I have a Garmin 1030 which has worked fine except that I have trouble reading the screen. I do not understand at all what is going on here. I am but disappointed regarding the supposed ease of use of the device. I had in the past Karoo2 and it was the best in terms of track accuracy. Etc. -Temperature is +/-5 degrees C too high (not a big deal). THis is such a shame, My original Wahoo bolt. Interesting.I dont think my original Bolt has this problem. I then went out for a ride with it, and was able to successfully complete the ride. No way. I asked Wahoo support for advice. Unless the issue requires a replacement unit their support is pretty useless. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Decimals difficult to read on the Bolt v2 due to the small font size when 7 data fields have been chosen. A few years ago I vowed never to go back to garmin but I think thats looking the most likely option now. I compared it with my Edge 530 and can confirm that temperature reading is always 2 degrees Celsius higher than Edge. One thing that has not disappointed me about the Bolt V2 is that Wahoo are constantly improving the unit with regular updates, that was the main reason for going for the original Bolt, I saw that the Bolt 1 was/is constantly refined, and why I jumped in with the V2, At the end of the day, mine is working great, love the screen, and the rerouting has helped me a few times with closed roads or when Ive missed a turn, Ive just stopped looking at the temperature field . As a reminder, text messages look like this: This change will be rolled out to all Wahoo ELEMNT units. The last update caused reboot loops if Strava sync is enabled for some people. You were instead just toldGood luck. However, every other release seems to be breaking random stuff. Interesting to hear you have had the same experience. Although you can delete it from the Elemnt app, it is only marked as deleted in the Wahoo Cloud, not fully deleted, so if you use an app like RunGap which uses the Wahoo API the deleted activities will still be downloaded (the API doesnt allow the identification of those marked as deleted). However, as far as your second question is concerned, I see the line to follow, but without any map or chevrons. I decided to return it, too many bugs for me. I turned it off. Hi, I have recently purchased a new Wahoo ELEMNT Bolt v2 and noticed a sudden drop in battery charge after it had been switched off over night.