Score one for the double cab port hole window. With the inner shroud mounted to the interior frame, the fabric duct collar was pulled through the inner shroud and cut to length. Once the air conditioner was on the roof, Gordon and Donny carried it over to the open vent. And do those have plugs to connect to shore power/generators? Where did the extra 70 pounds come from? Yeah I'd love to use a window unit somehow (because I can get a small brand new one for like $135), maybe something like that but a much shorter hose with the unit on the roof of the camper shell? Just figure out how to attach the end into the bed. The Coleman Mach 8 immediately roared to life. In retrospect, we would not have even attempted this part of the installation without help. Click to enlarge. The only thing is where you mount the unit, it had to be secured on tailgate in open position and cover the rest with some plywood,maybe a roof unit like the rv 's have(too complicated i my op.It is really a good topic , but too bad the technology is not here yet. With the caps off the pre-wire running to the breaker box, we spliced the pre-wire with the wire running to the vent area. This one fit inside the window openings and had a harder spring like flex inside the tube, sorta like a pice plastic flexible HVAC duct. I'd love to go camping not just in the two cold months we have each year. put it between the sliding glass of the cab and the glass of the campershell. AT4X versions of the GMC Sierra and Canyon. From these experiences, we can report that the 9200 BTU Coleman Mach 8 is very well suited to keeping the camper comfortable when its in the high 80s to low 90s and humid. Above: The inner fabric duct collar being cut to length and sealed into position click to enlarge. Getting the 90-Pound Air Conditioner on the Roof. I have a 5000 watt inverter..I just wonder how much juice the AC unit would pull.and if the alternator could keep up with the drain on the battery.. you would need a huge inverter to run an ac unit. TundraTalk.net forum offers the most comprehensive collection of Toyota Tundra information. Ran across this surfing the internet the other day, kinda interesting idea for sure just need a cooler and ice when you want to use it. http://www.tundratalk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=463337, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, tundratalk.net is an independent Toyota enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. The 9-pin cord was connected to the receptacle before screwing the inner shroud into the interior metal frame. hold in place thru the open cab window and inflate. Our current project camper arrived last summer without an air conditioner. I'm in DFW and this is what I did. If our camper had not been pre-wired for an air conditioner, or did not have a breaker ready for an air conditioner, this would have been a much more involved and potentially complex installation. Seems like a lot of trouble for the dogs (yes I do love my dogs too). What? Safety first. tundrasolutions.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. the AC adapter is for police officers who wear vests. Ive seen boots that connect a sliding rear window on a truck to the front window of a camper shell allowing the cool air in the cab to flow into the camper. Made a pretty big difference in the first half of the bed. Before we removed these safety caps, we switched the air conditioning circuit breaker in the camper to off. Now, it was time to remove the vent where the air conditioner would be installed. Its exactly what we wanted and needed for hot weather camping. As each screw was removed, he examined it to see if there was any rust on the screw. Above: Donny and Gordon getting ready to place the air conditioner into position. I've looked at those mightkools, only issue with all of those is the water. haha. Does anyone have any experience with this? That said, there are times when we need to stay put in temperatures above ninety degrees. Once separated from the pallet and packaging, the Coleman Mach 8 was relatively easy for us to lift and place into our VW hatchback. Above: Feeding the wires through the box, splicing the wire, and capping the wires click to enlarge. From inside the camper, Tom then guided the air conditioner as Gordon and Donny lowered it down. You may be able to get away with 20amp??? On days that push into the upper 90s, we found the 9200 BTU unit would cool down the camper, but not to temperatures we would consider completely comfortable. I open the rear cab window and camper shell window. I like the fact its slim and doesn't take up much room. TCM installs a low profile Coleman Mach 8 RV air conditioner on their project camper. I don't know anything about the ac unit in vehicles but it would be great to figure out a way to cool my camper shell in the AZ heat. Maybe a small one and a way to power it. I have always thought about doing that. 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We finally found the pre-wire tucked into a white box in the nearby wardrobe. Hey guys. Specifically, we selected a Coleman Mach 8 9200 BTU low profile high-efficiency air conditioner that is able to operate with a Honda or Yamaha 2000-watt portable gas generator. The fabric duct collar was the first item to be installed with four screws. Its not like it was going to fit in our mailbox. Above: Donny and Gordon listening to Toms instructions from inside the camper, and making small adjustments. Beyond just extending the quality of our truck camping experience, that knowledge, and our ability to share it with you, is what this whole project camper is about. The low profile on the roof, low profile inside the camper, low weight, and high-efficiency make it a no-brainer. Back in the early 80's my brother had an F150 that had a cap on it. They make these little air hoses that you can pipe in the A/C to an area like for babies and children in the back of your car. The pre-wiring prep and roof vent removal and clean-up were completed about the same time. Roof-mount units are more expensive, but made for exactly what you need. Honestly, we were mostly interested in its ability to be powered by a portable 2000-watt generator. Ive considered building a secondary wall at the back of mine that holds a window unit. Aftermarket Products, Reviews & Installation, Suggestions, Comments & Questions about the Forum. I can't imagine a battery + inverter would last any practical amount of time. To complete the installation, we pushed the control switches on and snapped the two air filters and side covers in place. Are there any options to air condition the bed with a shell/topper installed? With over forty years professional experience working with 12 and 110-volt wiring, circuits, and electronics, Tom completed the required copper wire, black wire, and white wire splices, checked his connections with a volt meter, capped them with wire caps, and screwed the pre-wire box closed. I considered rigging a wall mount unit in the side of my camper shell, but if I could forgo the need of having do that and also forgo carrying around a honda2000 that would be awesome. Second, we put a bag of frozen peas on him. It's awesome, but I live in Texas and it's summer. Above: The Coleman Mach is now in place on the campers roof, Above: Four bolts were then screwed in on the interior of the camper to secure the unit into place. This wire had been capped for safety by the factory. Might not be a bad idea. In the rare instances when we needed to dry camp in hot weather, we have come up with some creative solutions to keep Harley cool. It can divert some cool air down the shirt/vest to keep them cool. I wonder if you could get one made Or make one yourself with some water resistant material. Does it matter whether i have the seats facing forward or backwards? Although we avoid it whenever possible, we were now ready for hot weather camping. To get a proper seal, the air conditioner requires the old caulk to be completely removed and the TPO material cleaned. Hes stubborn like that. Of course , I would never leave Them in there parked in the heat. One option I would consider is heavily insulating and properly ventilating EU2000's so you can run them anywhere without anyone caring or noticing. This was, by far, the most challenging part of the installation and should be taken very seriously. JavaScript is disabled. Thats the weight of the air conditioner, its packaging, and the pallet it was shipped on. Tundra Solutions Forum - the best community to talk, mods, price, repair and research your Toyota! If youre at all in doubt, have a dealer do it. Team Emerick, as we have come to call them, have not only been incredibly gracious with their time, but also have the professional skills and tools to do just about anything electrical or mechanical on a truck camper. Our project camper is really coming along. With the wipe of a wet cloth, the TPO material around the vent was now as clean as it was going to get. Worked well for heat in the winter and cold in the summer. A large flathead screwdriver would also do the trick, but the sharp crowbar made it easier to cut into and begin pulling up the tacky Dicor. Top mounts are possible too. Above: Installing the control switches and air filters click to enlarge. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. On the flip side, we love the Coleman Mach 8 air conditioner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ8KkjBmbZs, http://kalori.com/us/products/air-conditioning-us/roof-electrical-ac-unit-us/electrik-us/, http://dcpowersales.com/project/kalori-electrik-variable-speed/. The previous Fall we had removed any dry, cracked, or otherwise damaged Dicor roof sealant and replaced it with Sikaflex 715. https://www.reddit.com/r/TruckCampers/comments/c0lllw/the_wife_says_she_wont_camp_with_me_in_the_texas/?st=jwwfyuy8&sh=819b3f3a. While Tom and I worked on the wiring, Gordon was on the roof removing the caulking that had sealed the now removed vent. What about those AC units installed on campers? Now if I could only convince the 95 lb dog that it's always my turn to drive wow, I was looking around for a while, trying to get that kind of "seal" between the shell and cab, thats sounds terrific, the intertube from a 26" mountain bicycle wheel. I'm thinking I'd be able to use it at a campsite that has power available, or possibly if I got a small generator I could use it anywhere. Unless youre the kind of person who can build an Ikea dresser in an hour without looking at the instructions, youve been warned. Roof mount unit, I'd recommend Coleman they make a small model that can actually be run on a Honda 2000i generator and fits in a standard 14x14 vent fan opening. But no, there arent any great options that I know of. 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Per the instructions, they were careful not to use the outer shroud for lifting. I have seen it work, they like it. Like most truck campers, we avoid extreme heat whenever possible. Dont mess with Donny! With the air conditioning set to low, the camper began to cool down. Check out this guy and the noise level of (2) EU2000's running at the same time. We considered it, but opted for a Maxxfan Deluxe instead. I'm one that wants a solution that I do once, how's that infomercial for that cooker go "set it and forget it". A few minutes later we had the scaffolding set up along the passengers side of the truck camper. Mine creates about a 95% seal. The following errors occurred with your submission, Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans. If you need more cooling capacity, Coleman offers 13,500 BTU and 15,000 BTU versions of the low profile Coleman Mach 8. Pick From Supermarkets to Motocross Trails; two unexpected and incredible passion tours. Above: Installing the outer ceiling assembly. It's a bit hokey but it will keep us cool at night. We were very excited on the day the Coleman Mach 8 shipped. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Why not just open the side windows? not sure if i linked it correctly but this would make my dog happy in the back, except then she would have get out of shotgun. The shipment weighed 160 pounds. The inner shroud was the second component to be installed. The instructions also veered heavily from Airxcels YouTube video showing a Mach 8 install. With these two items located, we were ready to begin the installation. Above: Tom drilled an additional hole in the pre-wire box to accommodate the second 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire click to enlarge. On the floor-facing side of inner shroud, the wiring was then spliced together; checked with a volt meter, and capped with wire caps. Click to enlarge. Above: The inner shroud being attached to theouter ceiling assembly click to enlarge. Home Truck Camper Mods Camper Projects Installing An Air Conditioner. Ive seen guys run duct work from their rear a/c vents to the rear window of the truck. I was surprised how comfortable the back of the truck was on our summer family trip from Utah to South Dakota. Summer is Here in So Cal , had a 98 deg day a couple days ago . Yeah, I do it. Using a drill press, Tom drilled an additional hole in the pre-wire box to accommodate the 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire running to the vent area. Above: Removing the Butyl tape click to enlarge. It gets some cool air back to the dogs. Please note that the 12-volt red and white wires shown in the vent area are not related to this installation. Good idea! Tbaxl may have something there, but he didn't do the link right, so I can't really get there to look at it. MX series Cap. etc. I rode back there for a while and had my wife drive and it was really comfortable. I helped my friend with his dodge, basically boxed the window area into the topper and fit a fan in there to pull cab air into the bed. You can see the pre-cut channel in the top left of the wardrobe. Or if you have an inverter in the bed already, just mount a small home A/C unit inside the bed. Nearly every hard side truck camper and many pop-up truck campers come with either a roof top air conditioner (as standard or optional), or a vent where a roof top air conditioner could be later installed. When all of the Dicor was removed, Gordon removed the screws holding down the vent. The bolts were at proper tension for the air conditioners gasket seal when four tension indicators located on the air conditioner unit made contact with camper roof. So I got a fiberglass camper shell for my 1999 F-150 6.5 foot bed. I would imagine the shell will have to be reinforced so it would not cave in with the weight of the A/C on there. A/C units take quite a lot of juice, even small ones. The A/C's run on 120v and usually require 30 amp though. Please check that your camper is pre-wired for an air conditioner before proceeding with this installation. Even after eleven years, the butyl tape had a powerful grip on our campers roof. After going through the experience of installing an air conditioner, with considerable help from Team Emerick, I dont recommend this project for everyone. I'm sure you can manage a similar set up, just more involved. Googling around i found this company making 12v swamp coolers for trailers, golfcarts etc, wiring isn't tidy but it will stay that way until I decide if the fan is staying in the back or front of the bed. I also caution that the installation instructions seem to assume that you have some experience with installing RV air conditioners. Thankfully, the screws came up clean. Some of the butyl came right up while other pieces put up a good fight. That ability extends our off-grid capabilities, and might mean the difference in staying where we want for an extra day, or heading for the hills. Just doable ones. Once the air conditioner was on the roof and positioned, these wires would be connected to the air conditioner electrical leads. Ideally I'd like to separate inside cab and truck bed. good dwi preventer.. lol. I'm a princess and need the security of having AC where I sleep. Just this past June we were forced to hurry up our schedule in the Northwest to escape temperatures surging well past 100 degrees. My question is, is there any way to mount (either removably or permanently) a window unit AC onto, say, the sidewall or the small side windows on the shell? Since the install, we have camped in hot weather on a number of occasions. Once all the screws were removed, Gordon used the crowbar to begin prying up the roof vent. Its time to vote for your favorite Medium Mods from Julys Iron-Mod contest. When we contacted Airxcel, they immediately solved the mystery. With the vent removed, the next step was to scrape off the Butyl tape material and the remaining Dicor remnants with the crowbar and a paint scraper. Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by EdFlecko, Mar 12, 2014. This took another fifteen minutes. Interior Frame, Shroud, Duct Collar, and Ceiling Assembling. You'll need to bust a window out and build a frame for it, and another insert for when it is not installed. That would seem like the best of all worlds. Inside the pre-wire box, our project camper had yellow colored 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire that led to the aforementioned air conditioner breaker in the camper breaker box. To follow up on RamItOne's idea, ARE has (or at least had) a kit to seal the area between the cap and the cab. Very hot and humid. Step one was figuring out how to get the 90 pound unit on the roof. First, we crank the Fantastic Vent to high and open a single window to pull air over where hes sitting. You can see Toms hands inside the camper guiding it into place. Of course this was on the highway. tundratalk.net is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. Problem with the Tundra is that it has the new EPA paint and the boot will rub thru the paint. Once the crowbar had opened up the Dicor, Gordon was able to pull off sections of Dicor in quarter-sized pieces. I point the rear seat ait vents right at the open rear window. Cookie Policy - Above: Tom removing the interior vent frame, Above: The interior vent frame is off, but we cant fully take the vent off until the exterior caulking is removed. Into this pre-cut channel we fed another yellow 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire. Terms of Service - i used this for my cap on my old f150 with the air matress in the bed. 07 Tundra DCSB, 5.7, Blue Streak Metallic, 4X4, SR5, TRD, BU, CK, DZ, FE, HM, MG, OF, Brushed Stainless steps, sill protectors, USMC lighted hitch plug and assorted stickers and license plate brackets, rollup bed cover, Rhino Liner, Mesh Grill backing, Black Wheelskin steering wheel cover, Wade in channel vent visors, under rear seat storage, PRG mini spring pack, Proforce rear exit cat-back exhaust, aFe CAI, TRD rear sway bar, A.R.E. Expedition Support Equipment & Adventure Activity. If you're travelling at slower speeds you won't get quite the same volume of air flow. When that process was completed, Gordon brushed the scraped off material into a dust bin and lightly sanded the TPO roof around the vent. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Above: Theyellow 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire (center) was fed from the pre-wire area in the closet to the vent area where the air conditioner will be installed click to enlarge. It took both of us pulling on the vent to remove it. Archive - I can't sleep in the Texas heat. If you dont have help for the 90-pound lift to the roof, or lack electrical knowledge and/or skills, this is not something you should attempt. Again, Tom expertly handled this part of the installation, and screwed the junction box closed. Everything has trade-offs. i hear you , i also live in sf and one of my dogs will scratch my rear window to let him in , and it only a 5 minute ride to the park. Contact Us - From there, Donny, who was on the camper roof at this point, literally one-armed the air conditioner up and onto the roof. After looking over the entire installation, and carefully checking the wiring, we plugged the camper into shore power, switched on the air conditioner breaker, and turned on the air conditioner. Do Not Sell My Personal Information -, By logging into your account, you agree to our. Above: Getting the air conditioner on the roof using scaffolding click to enlarge. Copyright 2007-2022. An interior metal frame and four bolts secured the air conditioner onto the campers roof. To install the air conditioner, we once again teamed up with truck camping friends Tom and Pat Emerick and their sons, Michael and Donny. I point the rear seat vents right at the rear window. This second 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire now ran from the vent area where the air conditioner would be installed, to the pre-wire box. If youre seriously considering installing a RV air conditioner yourself, please take a minute and really think about how youre going to get the unit on the roof. The 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire running from the pre-wire box was inserted into the roof-facing side of the electrical junction box on the inner shroud. The $6 buck solution is an intertube from a 26" mountain bicycle wheel. Terms of Service - Gordon used scissors to cut the fabric duct collar, but a utility knife would also be suited to the task. Above: The pre-cut channel in the vent area (bottom left in foam) click to enlarge. They are not as energy efficient as the 9,200 BTU version, but they will provide more cooling capacity when plugged into shore power or used with a suitable generator. I hate to do this but it was too funny to pass up: (#2). Content on tundrasolutions.com is generated by its users. Above: The pre-wire box was unscrewed so that we could feedanother yellow 12/2 flexible sheathed insulated wire. They used to make boots that connected the cab with the camper shell for trucks with smaller rear windows. The fan proved unneccesary. Maybe you can insulate the roof with some time of material, i haven't figure that out yet.Also a 5000w power inverter and a window ac unit is an idea. Above: Donny and Gordon lining up the air conditioner. And how were we going to lift and maneuver something that weighed 160 pounds when it arrived? Find discussions on the Toyota Tundra Diesel, TRD Pro, SR5, lift kits, towing capacity, classifieds, and more! To remove the Dicor around the vent, Gordon started with the sharp end of a small crowbar. All Rights Reserved. I have done this traveling across the country several times and it works fairly well.